VLWC: Barack Obama: A Sleeper Cell of One?!
Has Anyone Seen The Jew Amy Leibowitz Since She Took Those Pictures of Him?
By Erick Posted in 2008 — Comments (72) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
The wife of America's First Black PresidentTM, more out of concern for her own political ambitions than preserving her husband's legacy as First Black PresidentTM, has apparently set out to smear the man who could potentially be the first real black President.
As you have probably all heard by now, Barack Hussein Obama is potentially a sleeper cell of one.
An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.
"He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign."
First, I wonder if Mr. Obama is a fan of 24.
Read on . . .
Second, I am forced to wonder if this is going to be an orchestrated campaign the American public will be subjected to for the next two years. The Politics of Personal Destruction, so often railed against by the Clintons, yet executed flawlessly by them through their minion like the rabid chihuahua, is in full form here.
Here's what I predict will happen, and I'm stealing a friend's theory on this that I think is wholly accurate. Black leaders and preachers throughout the United States will begin rallying their congregations against Obama in favor of Hillary Clinton. Obama may be black, but he's the wrong kind of black for them1. They will point out that Obama's name rhymes with Osama, that his middle name is Hussein, and that he is a closet muslim masquerading as a Bill Moyers wanna be in a United Church of Christ church.
Not since Michael Steele had oreos thrown at him will black leaders so vehemently denounce a black man running for office. In the process, they will preserve the legacy of America's First Black PresidentTM, gain the gratitude of Hillary Clinton, and help John Edwards win the Democratic nomination as the smearing and mudslinging between Hillary and Barack drives Democratic voters into the open arms of the Breck girl (see Dean v. Gephardt in Iowa).
And then in the general election, Democrats everywhere will attack the evil Republicans for daring to call one of their own a closet muslim and pointing out that his middle name was Hussein and that his last name rhymes with Osama. The media will carry the meme forward and wikipedia will soon thereafter reflect that it was Republicans, not Hillary Clinton, who so savagely attacked Senator Obama.
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No, I have no idea what the "right" type of black is, but I know Obama is not it. Apparently it has to do with being descended from slaves.
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So apparently from an early age he fit right in with the United Church of Christ doctrine.
Totally false that Obama lived in Indonesia and attended a Muslim school. Well, except for the part about living in Indonesia. And attending a Muslim school.
Of course, the core point here is whether the school was a radical Islamic school and whether Obama in any sense adhered to such tenets, which doesn't seem to have much in the way of support.
"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill
And by "doesn't seem to have much in the way of support," I'd say "has no support".
... but by the time Hillary and Company gets finished it won't matter whether it was a radical Islamic school or not or whether he did or did not adhere to its tenets.
John
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Why would God create something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course.
"... but by the time Hillary and Company gets finished..."
They'll make Obama out to be the 21st hijacker!
He shouldn't run simply because he doesn't have the experience to lead America in these perilous times.
"You never need a firearm,until you need it BADLY!"
Just pointing out the sights to our fly-by tourists.
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You've got a lot invested in the sham "thrown Oreo cookie" allegations ("Steele told WTOP that he was never hit with Oreos and said the incident has been exaggerated"), but they're similarly without merit.
That was your last non sequitur, mis-directed, facially dishonest shot!
Johnny, tell him what he's won!
Well, Adam, you've won a luxury cruise back to the Land of Banned! That's right, you're set for an all-expenses paid, six-day and seven-night (for a start!) trip to the land of those unable to comment here! For you, the Price Was Right!
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A tribute to CO
but so typical of a guy who was supposed to comment on FEC issues only and mistook good nature for a license to poop on the floor.
"On Tuesday, Steele told WTOP that he was never hit with Oreos and said the incident has been exaggerated.
"I've never claimed that I was hit, no. The one or two that I saw at my feet were there. I just happened to look down and see them," Steele said"
someone pokes holes in one of your "known facts" and you ban them. wonderful.
please ban me also.
That you think it's because of his link and quote that he's gone alone suggests your wish should be granted.
We aim to please.
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"I've never claimed that I was hit, no. The one or two that I saw at my feet were there. I just happened to look down and see them," Steele said" (crown)
I thought the meaning behind the oreos and not the accuracy of their aim was the point.
I mean, how am I supposed to take someone seriously if his defense of the throwing of Oreos at Michael Steele is that they missed?
I've heard that exact line of defense used at least a dozen times already. Once they come up with a talking point, no matter how bad it is, they stick to it like glue.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
on an Oreo! Isn't that evidence of something?!
Run like Reagan!
The facts are: Barak Hussein Obama did not attend any Muslim schools in Indonesia. He attended the totally secular Indonesian public schools with mixed gender students as well as mixed gender teachers and administrators. This information did not come out of the Clinton campaign; it came from Insight Magazine, Fox News and the Washington Times. None of these reports included sources for their information and when queried fell back on the old "liberal", "We want to protect our sources."
According to "sources" Hillary attacks Obama with a smear.
How soon til we hear on Daily Kos that Rudy may be hiding a gay relationship, according to Mitt's people...or someone implying it might have been Mitt's people???
Rumors are fun but far better at revealing prejudices than facts.
>>No, I have no idea what the "right" type of black is, but I know Obama is not it. Apparently it has to do with being descended from slaves.
I think it has to be slaves IN AMERICA. Otherwise Colin Powell might qualify, and that is obviously ridiculous.
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For opposing the Neocon menace of the Bushilter regime, he's in.
Run like Reagan!
Obama an apostate, thus deserving in (some) Muslim eyes of the ultimate penalty? In truth I think it is relevant, if only marginally and for the fact that he may or may not have sought to conceal it. Still, the insinuations that will undoubtedly accompany this for the next year and a half will be far more pathetic than Obama's apparent omission.
You said:
"And then in the general election, Democrats everywhere will attack the evil Republicans for daring to call one of their own a closet muslim and pointing out that his middle name was Hussein and that his last name rhymes with Osama. The media will carry the meme forward and wikipedia will soon thereafter reflect that it was Republicans, not Hillary Clinton, who so savagely attacked Senator Obama."
Considering that the Osama/Obama and Hussein is his middle name memes have both come from the right so far, that this site (a right-wing site, I'm sure you'll agree) is posting about Obama being "potentially a sleeper cell of one," with the meant-to-be-humorous subtitle "Has Anyone Seen The Jew Amy Leibowitz Since She Took Those Pictures of Him?", I have no idea why anyone would suggest that the evil Republicans are savaging him.
No doubt this was over the top, but aside from the vaguely important question of whether or not he concealed aspects of his upbringing most posters here have taken less of an issue with the revelations about Obama than the possibility that they originated in the Clinton camp.
and a full disclosure are two different things. If I get busted for DUI and I mention the incident by saying "I had the privilege of visiting a police station to see New York's Finest at work" I may have satisfied the criteria for the former but I fall far short of the latter.
I didn't see the "Barack Obama is not being upfront about his past" criticism coming.
The guys writes a detailed autobiography and he's not being upfront about his past. Has there ever been a politician who is aspiring for national office that has been MORE upfront about his past?
Is this the new standard we shall gauge politicians by?
"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not." George Bernard Shaw
It's a specific issue about his past. There is a substantive difference between a Saudi-funded madrassa and something you describe as a school where most of your peers are Muslim. I don't think that his omission, if you can characterize it as that, is terribly troubling and so long as whatever statement his camp puts out isn't evasive it won't dent my opinion of him. That said, virtually every candidate puts out some sort of statement-of-principles-as-autobiography. Few have been as detailed or as well-received as Obama's but it is certainly not unprecedented.
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John
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Why would God create something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course.
Evidently it's not true to begin with, but the very use of that word implies that there's something wrong with it, then you equate it to a DUI? How in the world is attending a muslim school something that needs to be concealed in the first place, and if one does not talk a lot about it, why would it even merit the word "concealed" ? Strange framing going on here.
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Even those who learn from history are surrounded by those doomed to repeat it.
ISTR Ted Kennedy accidentally calling him "Osama" as the most-popularized incident of that nature. Which I think reflects rather more on Ted...
...but "he was raised as a muslim" is going to fissle out in about nine minutes.
The man believes in God and isn't afraid to speak of it, while also not making it a requisite for being an American.
Very powerful.
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I'm just saying, for those who would like to see continued Republican rule of the executive branch...
The issue is not the allegation, the issue is the source of the allegation.
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...and was following the line of the conversation in general on this thread about whether or not that fact... regardless of who may or may not be pushing it... will have any play with those voting in the primary or in the general election.
Democrat candidates will push this fact to slow down his momentum (but it won't work) and Republicans (at least those in the media) haave already tried to use his middle name (Hussein) against him (but that didn't really catch fire either).
It's going to be a moot issue and any politician who pressess it (as I believe you said) will showw more about his/her craven desire to win than anything else.
Then again, politics aint beanbags.
There are Republicans in the media? Coulda fooled me.
John
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Why would God create something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course.
Everybody knows that "Faux" News is secretly controlled by Haliburton (which is secretly controlled by the bildeburgers). People like Geraldo and Greta are so dangerous precisely because they can hide their right-wingedness so well.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Cause everyone knows that Fox News is run by a bunch of starry eyed college liberals.
"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not." George Bernard Shaw
John
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Why would God create something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course.
It's run by a bunch of CNN vets.
Run like Reagan!
There are some conspiracy theorists about Fox, no doubt. But, I don't think it helps the conservative cause to deny that there are some conservative voices in the media and that a number are at Fox. After all, Roger Ailes, who was a Republican consultant throughout the 1970's and 1980's, heads up Fox News. I'm not saying that necessarily results in bias, but I know as bad as I feel about CNN now, I'd feel even worse if they hired James Carville to run the entire news division.
Many reasonable people in America believe that God is God and whether you are a follower of Jesus Christ, Muhammed or anyone else, and that it's just splitting hairs or being stubborn to say that only people in a certain religion are going to get to heaven.
This is a side point to this conversation, which is how some Dems are treating another Dem (which of course will be blamed on Reps by the general election if B.O. is nominated). Only if he states that Jesus Christ is his Lord and it's a Christian God (not the all roads lead to heaven God) that he means would your point hold true. I don't personally know what Barack says on that publicly or personally.
As I stated above, the idea that some Democrats are going to get past Barak by playing the "WHICH God card" is utterly stupid, considering most of them are publicly uncomfortabler speaking about God at all.
If it's your thesis that the Radicalization of OBAMA!™ will eventually get pinned on Hillary's VRWC - a belief I share almost in full, by the way - then why precisely are we, well, aiding and abbetting in said pinning?
Just asking. Thanks.
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"I don't know." -- Helen Thomas, in response to the question, "Are we at war, Helen?" - posed by then-White House spokesman Scott McClellan.
That's why. It's the press who is going to "discover" this fact with the help of the Hillary!™ machine.
Now, shhhhh!
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Develop alternatives to existing policies and keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes the politically inevitable. Milton Friedman
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"I don't know." -- Helen Thomas, in response to the question, "Are we at war, Helen?" - posed by then-White House spokesman Scott McClellan.
McCain v. Obama. The Manchurian Candidate versus the Islamofascist Sleeper. The Men In the Shadows on both sides would have quite a fight on their hands. Communist Atheists versus the Muhammedans. Who would win?
Run like Reagan!
Would actively wishing for the apocalypse be a valid option? Or even (gasp) voting Libertarian?
"I could explain, but that would be very long, very convoluted, and make you look very stupid. Nobody wants that... except maybe me."
I've known far too many capital-L Libertarians to ever think I could trust them with actual power to govern and set policy.
But maybe that's just me.
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"I don't know." -- Helen Thomas, in response to the question, "Are we at war, Helen?" - posed by then-White House spokesman Scott McClellan.
Since 9/11 I have a hard time voting L nationally. If my choices were Obama and McCain though, I might leave the top of the ticket blank.
Run like Reagan!
as you don't vote in Sarasota, FL that will work. Otherwise the ACLU and Dems will have to use statistics to cast your ballot for Obama.
The capital L-libertarian would be the rapture. It certainly would be anarchy.
Muslim seminary as a child = sleeper cell member today? There are certainly things to criticize Obama about, but this is a stretch of the worst type.
You didn't pick up on the punctuation at the end and the sarcasm.
I actually feel sorry for Barack Oprah! on this one. It reminds me of Sherrod Brown accusing Paul Hackett of Abu Gahraib war crimes to get him out of the Ohio Senate Race.
Harry Reid is to ethics reform what HIV was to free love!
Now thats going to leave a mark :-)
John
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Why would God create something like whiskey? To keep the Irish from ruling the world of course.
"Of course, the core point here is whether the school was a radical Islamic one" I suppose there are other's, come on get your head out of the sand man I think the expose done recently on channel 4 in England is proof that there are no "moderate" muslims nor the schools or Mosque's they teach in. The british government had labeled 2 of those Mosque's as being part of the solution, my how wrong they were and will they now say they are not? of course not because that would be "racist".
I suppose better to be dead then be seen as racist. I cannot believe with all of the information out in the world today on the teachings and beliefs of Muslims as written in the Koran that people still want to pretend that there are somehow variations.
Peace through superior fire power:)
in the eyes of our moslem friends?
If so, will they be dedicated to his murder, as they claim is their obligation under sharia?
The radical types are dedicated to all of our murders regardless of whether we're ex-Muslims or not. Heck, those same radical types don't even have a problem killing other devout Muslims if it advances their agenda. Apparently they believe that Allah has a very high tolerance for collateral damage.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
making jabs at the Clinton machine.
But if one is reading here with the pre-supposed assumption that conservatives & Republicans are just plain stupid and mean, one leads oneself in another direction I suppose.
Due to that concern, I amended the title to include the "VLWC:"
If elected he won't last 30 days. And I'm not talking impeachment. If he has a deathwish let him run.
Definitely HazMat Alert!
And here I was, worried that nobody missed me while I was away in England.
Blam.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC.
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Even those who learn from history are surrounded by those doomed to repeat it.
at least he wasn't married to Bill Clinton, still can fit into a bathing suit, won't lose his correspondence for three years, doesn't scream "mother------ in public places,and doesn't have a face that looks like an octogeniarin Pillsbury Doughboy.
The preceeding is a short list and a caution that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw mud, much less rocks.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
Is this type of tone acceptable on RedState? Really? It sounds more like Borat than Edmund Burke.
Mr. Godfrey, welcome to RedState, however brief your visit may be. So kind of you to come over from Kos to start "some stink" here, as you say.
One of liberalism's weaknesses is that so many of you guys are humorless. The irony in Erick's subhead, which should be apparent to most readers, got a smile out of me (a Conservative Jew, not that it matters).
As a child, Obama spent four years in Indonesia with his mother and step-father, both of whom were non-practicing Muslims. Between ages 6 and 8, Obama attended a local Muslim school in Jakarta; after that, he was enrolled in a Roman Catholic school. In his book Dreams Of My Father (p.142), Obama writes: